On this week’s program, I talk to Charles Simic about James Tate, Kansas surrealism, humor in poetry, and embracing the unconscious,

plus I talk to Richard Blanco about the accidents that turn us into artists, the grind of editing, and the joys of finding new forms and challenges.

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Be sure to check out the music of David Rego, whose songs “Rings Ring” and “Sapphire Showers” appear on this episode.

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